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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 1, 2004 12:58:07 GMT -5
Someone HAD to do it.
Okay, before I get started, let me just say this before someone else does. 1) I am not racist. 2) I am not racist. There. Oh yeah, this is my opinion. If you do like it, your choice. I won't treat you any differently if you didn't like it. With that said....
#1) First off, Rap music is definitely NOT music.
Instruments being played?
Nope.
Any vocalization, a.k.a., singing?
Nope.
Already, it being considered "music", is thrown right out the window. The rappers don't sing, they don't play anything. How is it music then?
#2) The rap itself
Okay, first off, for any rappers or potential rappers out there, please hear this.
STOP RAPPING ABOUT YOUR GODDAMN CARS, MONEY, BEING A "THUG", LIVING A "HARD" LIFE, AND SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVERY rap song has something to do with that. And I for one am sick of it. First off, these rappers that say they've had difficult lives know SHIT about living difficult lives. They ever go to war? They ever live a life in TOTAL poverty? Like not having food for MONTHS?!
No. So stop trying to get sympathy.
Another thing, their beat sucks. The same goddamn type of beat, over and over. It's not really different. You can compare it to almost every other beat.
And we dumb ass Americans eat it up. Does a guy like Snoop Dog deserve to be rich? Hell no. Do rockstars, who actually write AND play music deserve their money?
Yes. And that goes double for musicians of other different types of music.
I am so waiting for Rap to die out. And in case any of you say, "It's black music, you're white, you wouldn't understand."
BULLSHIT. You want black music?
Jazz, What. THAT is black music. Ray Charles will forever be better than some friggin' Nelly, or Tupac. Those are black musicians. Not rappers.
(BTW, their names for themselves have got to be some of the most retarded things I have ever seen.)
Oh yeah, and thanks a lot rappers. Now every chick thinks a guy is into her now because of her body. Way to go you sexist fuckers, you only made it worse. I seriously would love to see a chick beat the crap out of a rappers for calling her a "bitch". Honest to god fellas, thank you. Really. (Sarcasm)
That's my two cents on Rappers.
End Rant.
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Post by chaos unleashed on Nov 1, 2004 13:30:21 GMT -5
well, I Like 2pac, but after he died, Rap just went downhill, JayZ is cool, but come on people!!! there has to be a different beat like Ex said, it seemes that the beat is recycled and a few things has been added to it... To be a successful rapper, all you have to do is: Talk about Girls, Talk about your Sex life, or Sex Talk about you Smoking weed, or doing drugs Talk about you shooting someone or being in some type of gang war Big up a few people and cities.... oh yeah, and sware in like every verse omg ANYONE can do that why say all that stuff when you know someone else is going to do it as well!!! Ex, I agree with your feelings about rap like 95% of it, but... I do like 2Pac Im not gunna deny that, at least he stuck doing one thing and rap about his streetlife and not girls and sex..
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Post by booo on Nov 1, 2004 18:59:42 GMT -5
STOP RAPPING ABOUT YOUR GODDAMN CARS, MONEY, BEING A "THUG", LIVING A "HARD" LIFE, AND SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERY rap song has something to do with that. And I for one am sick of it. First off, these rappers that say they've had difficult lives know SHIT about living difficult lives. They ever go to war? They ever live a life in TOTAL poverty? Like not having food for MONTHS?! Theres a difference between 'most' and 'all'... Though you do have to look pretty hard to find it sometimes, there is a ton of rap and hip hop that is awesome beyond words. Should look up Genius - B.I.B.L.E., its pretty nice in my opinion, and it doesn't focus on sex money, cars, or other cliche stuffs. Oh, and I'm just wondering, but how do you feel about stuff like techno and drum'n bass? Since you listed having actual instruments as being a requirement for something being considered music.
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Post by Akatsuki Dizzy on Nov 1, 2004 19:32:23 GMT -5
I totally agree with you EX. I don't wanna sound racist but why is it mainly blacks who become some big rappers anyways? It seems racist or cheap to me. I have to admit I listen to one rap artist, but he does funny rap, mc chris, but that's it. I'm all country otherwise, but yeah, you did hit the nail on the head there EX.
Off-topic: That has to be the longest post thus far on Cyclone!!! Nice job with that EX, oh and you' should debate with a prez and see what happens some time lol.
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Post by The Badguy on Nov 1, 2004 19:36:09 GMT -5
What he means is that it is mostly sound effects and beatboxing accounting for "instruments" in rap... Atleast thats what I think. Seriously though, rap pisses me off more than any kind of music. Some jackass in my seminar was trying to get me to sing some rap lyrics with him in the middle of seminar class. I had to do all I could to detain myself from slapping the crap out of his white Eminem wanna-be ass. Yeah... The saddest part is when I see white people acting black. You have no idea how much I hate this guy. I forced myself to whisper to him.
Mike: "Cmon sing this with me, you be Dr. Dre and I'll sing Snoop Dog." Me: "Tell me Mike, are you a friggen retard?" Mike: "retard?" Me: "Take a f#@$in look around the room, There's no way in hell I'm singing that right here... Mike: "C'mon why not?" Me: "First of all I hate rap, second of all I hate you, and third of all, I don't know if you checked a mirror or not, but you're pale white, not black." Mike: "You saying I can't rap?" Me: "I'm saying there are better things do." Mike: "Here just sing this ONE with me..." Me: "Hell no!" Mike: "Why not?" Me: "Take a friggen look at the second line in that piece of crap you call lyrics." Mike: "Ohh, you mean (didn't wanna pollute the forums so I modded this out.)?"
Teacher heard this and he got in trouble, thank God... He deserved it... The worst thing is that white people like Mikey there, are trying their hardest to be the stereotypical "black thug." and it reeeeaaally pisses me off. The only thing worse than a black stereotype is a white guy imitating it...
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Post by booo on Nov 1, 2004 20:14:21 GMT -5
MC Chris and country = rocks
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Post by Akatsuki Dizzy on Nov 1, 2004 20:45:07 GMT -5
MC Chris and country = rocks lol awsome, you're a fan of both? there's like no one around here in WI that likes country, and mc chris is like a nobody here to.
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Post by booo on Nov 1, 2004 20:51:18 GMT -5
Yeah, I didn't get into country music until this last summer, but I've been a fan of the Chris for a couple years now.
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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 1, 2004 21:35:16 GMT -5
Oh, and I'm just wondering, but how do you feel about stuff like techno and drum'n bass? Since you listed having actual instruments as being a requirement for something being considered music. Techno is a little difficult to explain. They carry a very unique melodious beat that is changing at many times, although it can be considered a much snazzier version of a rap beat. I personally like it, BUT it depends. Only certain techno songs are good, while some are not. Not quite familiar with drum'n bass.
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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 1, 2004 21:38:26 GMT -5
Nice job with that EX, oh and you' should debate with a prez and see what happens some time lol. Thanks. Oh....If I EVER got to talk to Bush or Kerry heads would roll. Granted I may have voted for Bush, but that doesn't mean I really like him. He'd be crapping his pants if I ever got to talk with him.
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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 1, 2004 21:40:01 GMT -5
Oh and Badguy? I agree TOTALLY. Stupid whiggers. DON'T BE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT!
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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 1, 2004 21:42:47 GMT -5
Actually, I'm not a big fan of country. However, I credit them to actually having VOCAL & MUSICAL TALENT. I credit them as musicians at least.
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Post by Akatsuki Dizzy on Nov 1, 2004 22:07:45 GMT -5
Off-topic: just wanted to say something here. Let's try not to fill up the forums with multiple double posts, k. So if you could edit the first post of the four EX that adds the others into it, that'd be great.
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Post by Red Exodus on Nov 2, 2004 1:08:52 GMT -5
Lol, sorry. No problem then. ;D
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Post by chaos unleashed on Nov 2, 2004 13:31:38 GMT -5
I love Slip Knot lmao they are so scary yet so funny, before, they used to scream their heads off and people would like it, but now when they are actually SINGING in their freakin songs, they're badass!!
@ Badguy
Dude I feel your words man
I mean, Rap isn't as popular as U.K Garage here, U.K Garage is basiclly a faster version of rap, with english accents, a LOT of street slang, and it concentrates more on Murder and Sex... I hate it completley,
and mainly black people do it, and gather around and have a clash where whoever can Mc about what they think of the opponent and what they will do to the opponent... anywho, a majority of White people are doing it,
but now, Asians are doing it, im an asian, and Asians do NOT mc, now, there are more Asians trying to act black!!
omg dudes!! please stick to listening to Rap and MC's, dont go out and do it, most of you aren't even good!!!
but I totally know how you feel Badguy totally do
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